Well, since Chris asked for it, I’ll go ahead and talk about it. Not sure what he covered on it already in his LJ, but I can certainly go over what comes to mind.
First thing, and it’s a major concern with the idea of objectivity. Being Human. The very notion of someone trying to be objective is in some ways, ludicrous. You cannot possibly remove yourself so far from personal feeling to become completely objective. The human experience is based upon personal experience of every human, and when it comes to analysis of a situation, those experiences are used. Let’s say you’re a lawyer or a judge and all you are using to base your decision on is previous law. Well, that’s all due to interpretation too.
Relativity. It’s entirely what is it. The idea of objectivity is really the same as the idea of truth. You have personal truth, and universal truth. Due to the limits of the human experience, you cannot possibly know universal truth, so even if by chance your personal truth was the exact same as universal truth, you would have no way to know. There is no basis for comparison. So, what’s truth? Personal experience, opinion, rational thought, etc etc. All this is what builds someone’s personal truth. So really, objectivity is kind of a myth… though there are exceptions. One, if god exists (something that knows whatever Universal Truth). Another is a computer… but even that is programmed by a person, someone that has experience that tells them that heat is hot, cold is cold, etc etc. To a computer, what does that mean? All this is programming a computer to share experiences that a human has… so while it may be able to be more objective than a human, it’s still only objective from a human point of view. It’s not all bad though… there is a reasonable exception… math. It’s pretty damn objective… but again, only to the human point of view. To another species, or to the universal truth, it could be a long way from objective.
So does this mean objectivity is the same as truth? Seems like it to me. This isn’t to say that people shouldn’t be objective. They should be. But they shouldn’t pass it off as Truth to everyone. Societal objectivity might be able to do this… but only within that society. And until there is a world wide gathering of people into one national society, it seems rather silly to think that the US societal truth is valid to a group of Shiite Muslims on the other side of the world, or even a group of Americans… some would say that you accept the societal truth if you become a citizen of that state… that may be truth to an extent, but you cannot expect people to sign off on a truth that is only written in stone for some people, and is easily changable or avoidable to other people. But then you might argue that those two groups are difference societies… which says there’s even more of a reason to create a world society so there is no group that is able to get around these rules. But you certainly don’t want a subset of people that are non-representative creating this.
This really morphs into something Chris and I have been talking about the past few days. In Japan he has been faced with the reality of being an American in another country, and having to fight with the stereotypes that American’s face in other countries. We’re Cowboys, we don’t care about what the rest of the world thinks, we consume 70% of the worlds GEP, we have a moron for a president (that we didn’t elect), and anytime we don’t like someone, we go to war with them and to hell with what the world thinks. I think that’s basically it. The sad thing is, most of it’s true in one way or another. But, the thing that really doesn’t get across to the world at large: it isn’t all the people that are this way, it’s a subset of the population.
Texans are cowboys, a lot of the midwest are hicks, we all do help consume that much (it’s a group effort), we do have a moron president, but we didn’t vote for him (most of the nation did NOT vote for him), and anytime a subset of the nation doesn’t like someone, they send another subset of the population off to kill them.
One of the main problems, American’s don’t go abroad. They don’t show the world that the average Joe isn’t like his ruling class. It is a ruling class by the way… it’s the top 1% of the country that does all this, and the cowboy thing, well, that’s just movies and Bush (and before him, Daddy and Reagan). A lot of people come to the US from their native country, but a lot of them stay… and others go back, and talk to a small population of their native country and don’t really get across the idea that we’re not all like their pre-existing idea of us. So when someone like Chris goes over to Japan, he gets to face people from Japan, or from other countries saying something about the way Americans are… and Chris having to get into a debate with them about how we really are. Someone saying “Oregon is a hick state” (this came from someone online talking to Tara). And then having to say, “umm, actually Oregon is the most liberal state in the country, and we have the highest Lesbian Percentage of the population in the country” (would that be a percapita thing? lol, kidding, kidding).
So, what do we do, as a nation, to solve this? Well, first thing would be to quit killing people we don’t like. That would be a big chunk there, and really short term too. The other things are going to take time, are going to require something that the US has very little idea of. Long Term Solutions. As a nation, the longest we tend to look into the future is 4 years: the time from one Presidential election to the next. Last time we looked more into the future than that was when Kennedy wanted to go to the moon… but that still wasn’t very far sighted of us. We need to start thinking 10,20,40 years in the future. We need to start educating the people of this country. Raise the national education level of the country up to the point where it should be for the world’s richest country. Get the people to the point where they can truly vote in their best interest, instead of just voting for some pretty commercial add. How about we put however many billions of dollars that Bush is putting toward Mars toward Educating the Nation. But no… that would be taking money that would be going toward Corporate America and spending it within the government. And to get people to vote for you, you have to convince them that Government spending is down. Well, it is, within parts of the Government, but the money does flow. More and More each year… that’s called Growth. I think we need to coin a term for modern republican values…. Retroactive De-evolution Spending. Spend a lot to move the country back to where it was pre-Roosevelt.
Eh, I’ve gotten into Ranting. Comment on this if you want me to cover anything else… I’ve kinda lost the groove.
Until next time.